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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Dec 13, 2007 2:24pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Steal This Book

American National Biography
http://www.anb.org/articles/18/18-03430.html

"Garcia's nonconformist, utopian vision of total independence and freedom (in mind and body) appealed to "hippies" and other young people who denounced the Vietnam war, monogamy, parental or authoritarian guidance, formal education, and conformist jobs."

"Thousands of Deadheads followed the band and Garcia wherever they went, mostly because of the freedom of their music; the concerts' liberal, party-like atmospheres; and Garcia and Weir's socially conscious focus on performing benefit concerts to help charitable organizations. They gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to causes such as the Vietnam Veterans Project, Cultural Survival, Greenpeace, Rainforest Action Network (the band's major preoccupation), AIDS research, the Egyptian Department of Antiquities, and the Faith and Hope Society for the Handicapped."

"As their fame grew, so did the band's wealth. After a nine-concert series at New York's Madison Square Garden in June 1988, the gross receipts totaled $3,768,244, and by the end of 1989 Forbes estimated the band earned $12.5 million annually."

Garcia and the Dead are clearly documented as being ani-war and against the Viet Nam war. Jerry has been filmed countless times taking this position. The list is huge. We can all search and find it. Many of these films have been telecast recently: "Tom Brokaw 1968", on History Channel; "Summer of Love", American Masters on PBS, quoted below.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/love/program/

Jerry Garcia: "What we're thinking about is a peaceful planet, we're not thinking of anything else. We're not thinking about any kind of power. We're not thinking about any of those kinds of struggles. We're not thinking about revolution or war or any of that. We would all like to be able to live an uncluttered life, a simple life, a good life and think about moving the whole human race ahead a step."

I feel strongly about our situation here Olo. Whose binary files are these? What is a file? Who runs my computer and my audio gear? A bunch of 3rd party software thugs? Why does pro-audio software cost so damn much money for musicians? No wonder some of these bands need to charge lots of money, or go broke quickly instead. String Cheese, Leftover Salmon, Yonder Mtn String Band, Bela Fleck & Flecktones and their audiences set the example well on etree and LMA. They blow me away! The Dead and their variant bands are in the middle of it all. Other bands -- hey Mick, that means you -- are over the top with greed. And bs too. Mick Jagger, the rebel. Bullshit! Guy takes a knight-hood from a head of state in England. Crap! Then Tony Blair hooks up with George W Bush, and they commit the biggest crime against humanity in the 21st century -- illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. Oil goes from $30 to $95 a barrel. Corporations and big shareholders get filthy-rich. Torture is legalized. International law is disgraced. Blackwater Worldwide forms a huge private army for profit, working for George W Bush, kills lots of people illegally in Iraq, even has brutal thug squads in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina.

If you wanna hold me to a scientific certainty here with sources... please, then you should be held to the same standard. Maybe you can scientifically disprove what I'm saying. What about Net Neutrality? What about our News and Entertainment Media (and Internet) being owned by 5 or 6 corporations, all sold-out, pure propaganda for profit? Free Enterprise rules, period? What about ignoring severe Climate Change and Global Warming? Isn't Health Care a given right for all of us, at least in the USA? What about all the push for profit, profit, profit -- no holds barred? What is it Bill Maher says? "New Rules." Oh yeah, ABC-TV (Walt Disney) knocked Bill Maher's "Politically Incorrect" off the air. NBC (General Electric) knocked Phil Donahue off MSNBC (General Electric and Microsoft). Now all we have is mostly lies and propaganda, except for Amy Goodman and Bill Moyers.

I think it should be what Jerry says above, "We would all like to be able to live an uncluttered life, a simple life, a good life and think about moving the whole human race ahead a step." We know about other bands charging fees. I already mentioned seeing the Stones for $1000 is bs. What about illegal war in Iraq, crimes against humanity, torture, locking people up indefinitely (no lawyer, no family visits, never going to court to hear charges against you)? What about sustainable life on Earth? Where are we going? Why? How come everyone is working like a slave these days? Being treated like one, too. Healthcare system evaporating.

So I've been saying... We have a wonderful bright place here, thanks to etree and LMA, and the bands, musicians and their audiences, friends, etc... and people like myself. I'm exactly like etree. I read their bio's. Been using LMA for a year. I've watched gdlive-dot-com morph during this time. I could swear I was getting lots of MP3s and SHNs there. Gone. I did stop by dead-dot-net, and purchased 2 t-shirts for $55. I thought whoever was getting the money were good folk, and I should pitch in... nice t-shirts too. Lots of ways for bands, musicians, and their families to make a living, without tainting hallowed ground -- that being the most free form of live music interactivity.

I don't want to see etree and LMA wind up like another experience with Microsoft. Big enterprise takes over. Starts telling everybody, "Work this way, like this, like that. Don't do this. Don't do that." Stuff starts getting crippled quickly. Everything gets unstable, unreliable. Nothing works worth a shit pretty soon. Have to start buying more stuff right and left. Filling up landfills with e-waste. Pretty soon the Stones are running another PR advertising campaign for Microsoft again, on every cable and TV channel. Steve Jobs and Apple are not helping cost controls either. Nike sets the worst example. Something like 500 or 600 per cent profit is the new benchmark. When is enough profit enough?

3 points, Olo:

a) " television isn't free whatsoever and never was". Last time I looked, when using applied physics and materials in the Einstein universe, emf energy resonates naturally at TV, Radio, Microwave, and Satellite frequencies and bandwidths. Are you saying somebody "owns" this stuff? Just 'cause Monsanto is getting away with patenting genes (amazing to me!), doesn't make it so. How can you "own" land? You can own a title or deed to it, is all. Maybe put a fence around it. Does Microsoft get to enforce "live, and let live"?

b) what do you mean by, "why not at least be sly"? I'd like to be. I was thinkin' LMA forum and archive-dot-org was ground zero for "village square". Hope readers appreciate the respect I have for archive-dot-org.

c) "This world needs more than typewritten words." I agree 100 per cent. Let's form a grass-roots movement. I think we're both chipping in right here. People ought to think before they act. Make informed decisions based on the Truth and the relevant facts. Get their facts from the News Media? Big Problem. How can our Democracy flourish without a functioning news media? The same corporations own the Internet. Okay, now act. Keep access to LMA and etree in a Net Neutrality world. People doing that are people who believe in sustainable life on Earth. Jerry Garcia, Grateful Dead, Woodstock, Live Music, LMA, Net Neutrality, Viet Nam, illegal War in Iraq, torture, denial of Climate Change... it's all connected. Is this sustainable, what's going on now?

Btw, Jerry's widow, Deborah Koons Garcia, made an excellent film in 2004 that documents how genetically engineered foods -- Genetically Modified Organisms -- slipped into our food supply. We're now eating "Franken-Food". What's for dinner next? Soylent Green? Come on people, let's get a real movement going. Read about Garcia's film here:

http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/garcia110804.cfm

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 13, 2007 2:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Steal This Book

DEBORAH KOONS CAN FUCK OFF

http://www.doyourownwill.com/garcia.asp [think she lived up to Jer's written wishes re Keelin and other matters?]

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2007-12-13 22:30:57